January 14, 2005

Speedy Gonzales Sharon

Well, that was fast.

Abbas hasn't even been sworn in and already the Israelis are refusing to deal with him.

Not to downplay the seriousness of the attack that occurred, or the loss of life involved, but this seems unreasonable. For me, it simply screams that the Israelis were just waiting for something like this to happen so they'd have an excuse not to deal with him. I don't know that this is the case, but that's what it seems like to me.

While I don't think negotiating with Hamas and the other Palestinian terrorist groups is bound to go anywhere, at least Abbas is actually working on the damn problem in the first place. Which, I might remind you, is something Arafat absolutely refused to do. Disagree with Abbas' means all you want, he's at least tackling the problem.

Give the man a chance. Then if he fails, you can cut off all ties. But this means having patience and not cutting off said ties before the man is even sworn in. While I don't doubt that it's a bitch to live in Israel and be attacked by all sides constantly, if the Israelis really want peace, they're going to have to have a little faith in Abbas. All they've really done with this move is to give Abbas props with Hamas and the other terrorist organizations operating in the occupied territories, and honestly, is that good for anything?

Posted by Kathy at January 14, 2005 01:30 PM

I wonder if you have any idea who it is we are dealing with in Abu Mazen. Do you remember the Munich Olympics? Abu Mazen was responsible for the financing of the Munich attack.

Abu Mazen's relationship to Yasser Arafat has been approximately that of Heinrich Himmler to Adolph Hitler.

Abu Mazen is a holocaust denier who authored a book titled: The Other Side: The Secret Relationship Between Nazism and the Zionist Movement.

Do you believe it is possible that after 30 years as a Jew hating terrorist, Abu Mazen is all of a sudden a moderate who wants peace with Israel?

Give him a chance to do what Kathy? Preach peace while Jews are blown in buses and restaurants? Didn't we have enough of that with Arafat?

What did he ever do to earn the benefit of the doubt, especially when giving him that benefit will likely only mean more Jews will be killed by terrorists?

Posted by: LindaSoG at January 15, 2005 03:19 PM


I believe I do understand who Abbas is. I'm not denying anything you wrote up there. He is NOT a good man. I don't believe he is a moderate. I believe he wants peace simply because it would be best for his people and not because he suddenly loves Jews. And I didn't write or imply that anywhere in this post.

What I am saying is that the Israelis have to give the man a chance to get things under control. If Sharon didn't want him in office and wasn't going to deal with him if he did so, Sharon should have said so from the get go. He didn't. Though tentative and extremely hesitant at the possibility of dealing with Abbas, Sharon nevertheless did not pull away from the potential. Abbas needs time to do what he says he's going to do. Undoing all of the damage Arafat wrought is not going to happen overnight. If Abbas doesn't do it, which is not only possible but probable, then cut off ties. Fine. Go right ahead.

If peace is to be obtained, a little faith has to be given, and it has to be given even to people who are not the optimal candidate for the job. The point here is getting a deal done. Do you only want to ever deal with angels? Knowing full well that the angels, despite their goodness, simply can't wrangle a deal? Or are you perhaps interested in doing a deal with the devil if the devil can get the job done? This is the case in every peace deal that has ever been signed. Ask the southern Sudanese if they believe the northerners---who are still led by Omar Bashir, who prosecuted that war since Day One, over twenty years ago---will stop attacking them now that the cease fire has been signed. They're probably pretty doubtful, but they at least have a bit of faith. The only way any peace deal, let alone one between the Israelis and Palestinians, can ever be proved is if the people in charge not only give faith, but return it as well. It seems a bit preemptory on the part of the Israelis to pull their willingness to deal with the man before the man is even---technically speaking---in charge of the whole shebang.

If that attack had happened next week, instead of this one, well, I would think differently on the whole matter. That it happened this week, makes me wonder not only about the intentions of the Israelis, but also about just what Abbas is capabable of getting done and how much support---from all sides---he's going to get in the meanwhile.

Posted by: Kathy at January 15, 2005 04:58 PM

Your reply to my comment makes me see that I am jaded about the topic. I want to share your hope and I find it difficult to do so. That is no reason for me to try to shatter someone else's hope and I apologize for giving you a hard time about it. You are right.

Hope and faith are both good things and without them, we are lost.


Posted by: LindaSoG at January 16, 2005 04:55 PM

No biggie, Linda:)

I hope that he lives up to his end of the deal and we can finally have some sort of resolution that allows people to be able to leave their houses without worrying about being killed. That's ultimately what this is all about and it's what I would really like to see happen. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but my eyes are wide open:)

Thanks for stopping by.

Posted by: Kathy at January 17, 2005 10:20 AM
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